[Quiet Lunatic]

shuder

Guys the torque converter is not the problem!! Go find a set of rumble strips on the highway and drive over them, unless you're experiencing that kind of vibration the transmission is not shuddering. If you're feeling a vibration around 60-80kms and your engine RPMs are down around 1200-1300 its the engine vibrating!!!

The problem is solely in the programming of the transmission. Torque converters, valve bodies, and complete transmission assemblies with not fix this problem.

The 42RLE transmission works this way to meet emissions regulations.

i am on the 3rd torque,you are probly correct about the shudder but it is poor elct throttle controle to a poor valve body and computor to keep the torqe locked up to long, do not by the emmision isueas lugging engine notclean.chrysler is the problem,they deserve bankrupsy. cliff

 

[soupy2407]

I own a 2wd 2008 Dodge Nitro bought on September 10th. I am reading all these Technical Service Bulletins and I am extremly concerned. I have the Basic Warranty coverage that came with the vehicle and currently only have 6,300 miles on my Nitro. Id like to know what I need to do in order to update my Dodge Nitro of these TSB's , make sure the technician actually performs them and do not get charged at the same time. Does my limited Warranty cover these TSB'S/ Please Help, Thank you....

 

[Scar0]

Welcome to the forum soupy2407, :wave:
When you have a chance head over to the "Newbie section" and say "Hi".
That way we can welcome you all "Proper like".

Yes, Go to your dealer and ask that they be done. Print them out and take a copy with you. You can also go to Dodge on line to see if they need to be done.
Go here and check the "recalls" section on the left.

 

[soupy2407]

Thank you very much for the info. It is highly appreciated...

 

[Jerrod710]

This TSB only applies to the SXT / SLT models with the 4 speed auto tranny. Have you checked your wheels for balance? Just a thought.

Reading this has got me asking myself the question. If the problem is only with the sxt/slt models, what is to stop a person from fixing this problem themselves just by buying a new transmission and torque converter that the r/t's have? Then if necessary get the driveshaft(s) lengthened or shortened whatever the case may be or if it even has to be done in the first place. If the transmission and torque converters are working problem free in the r/t's it just seems like common sense to me, yeah sucks the dealer probably won't pay for it or cover it under warranty and you may have to buy a new computer for the transmission if it has it's own or if it part of the main computer. But wouldn't it be worth it if it all worked right in the long run after doing all this work? Just a thought I had. I have a 2009 and this is what I'd definitely be investigating if I start having these problems like you 2007, 2008 owners are having. Or maybe there is a company out there that makes aftermarket torque converters that don't have lock ups that may work for the Nitro, but who is to say that will work because the computer is programmed for the lock up, right? It may cost a couple grand or more to try to make this r/t swap happen, I'm just guessing on the cost here as I haven't priced anything. It is something really anybody can do if they wanted and had the tools to do it with. Obviously if you had to program the computer(s) you can't do that but a trip to the dealer they should be able to or you could send it to someone who can. :thk:

 

[Jerrod710]

i am on the 3rd torque,you are probly correct about the shudder but it is poor elct throttle controle to a poor valve body and computor to keep the torqe locked up to long, do not by the emmision isueas lugging engine notclean.chrysler is the problem,they deserve bankrupsy. cliff

Good afternoon Cliff, I understand your frustration. I don't think that it deserves wishing their bankruptcy, after all it is government and the EPA that is rushing all the car makers to make immediate changes to this, that, and the other and if they don't by a certain quick to come date they get heavily fined. So there are constant changes to all vehicles that have to be made without proper testing and investigation to make our wonderfully retarded government and tree huggers happy! Take a look at diesels for instance. Right now the Dodge Cummins over the last year and a half to two years is a piece of junk. Seems like every oil change or 5,000 miles one needs injectors, needs to be remapped, needs turbo(s), or some other failure. And if you think that is bad you haven't seen anything yet! For every problem the Dodge diesels are having the Ford's have double the problems. EPA has made the standards and qualifications for emmisions so strict and requirement of new technology so ridiculous extreme the new Cummins engines don't even have any get up and go anymore. Friend of mine has a 2008 Ram 5500 with the Cummins and a standard transmission and to start off from a start while releasing the clutch you have to feed it throttle to keep it from stalling out! This is pathetic and unheard of for a diesel! So as far as I am concerned the problems are out there no matter what brand you drive. Just be thankful the brand you're driving looks cooler than everyone elses'!!!! :Racing:

 

[NitroTech]

Nitro R/T's have a completely different transmission, a NAG1, that just can't be swapped in for the 42RLE.

 

[Jerrod710]

Nitro R/T's have a completely different transmission, a NAG1, that just can't be swapped in for the 42RLE.

I figured it probably wouldn't be capable of a just bolt in if they were different. So I gotta ask, is it possible? Even with someone willing to change driveshaft lengths if necessary and build a transmission crossmember and if need be one for the t-case?

 

[Blue Skye]

08' SXT trans - TSB 18-023-09 dated July 31/09

I live west of Edmonton, Alberta (Canada).

On March 14.09 I bought a new 08' SXT. According to the TSB in affect at that time the dealer tech flashed the trans at 1,500 KM. But at 3,500 KM the problem persisted at exactly 70 KMH. The problem could easily be detected on a smooth and level ashphalted road. I told them I would continue to drive it to 10,000 KM and they could diagnose it at that time. On August 6 (a week ago) the transmission tech's report said yes, that my trans was doing exactly what I said it was doing. The tech re-flashed the trans in accordance with TSB 18-023-09. The date of the TSB release was JULY 31, 09'. Since the trans was re-flashed according to the new TSB. Since Aug 6 everything seems to be running OK up to about 125KMH (max speed driven). (By the way, the tech report used the word "drone" instead of groan or vibration.) The only thing I still experience is a hardly noticeable momentary shift bumping when it upshifts going up or down a grade on cruise only.

Another problem I reported was that ocassionally the turn signal would not return, no matter what I tried. The warranty fix for that is a new part that was ordered in accordance with STARDOC K30275312.

If anyone from my region of B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Manitoba have had a problem with the trans I would appreciate a personal message contact. The Service Mgr at my dealership says that warranty replacement issues such as this are referred to the Western Can. Regional Svc. Manager. Our pooled information may be necessary for us to present our case to if need be. Thanks......Bryce

Feel free to post this message on other forums as you wish and if you want to talk more then give me a call at 780-963-7322. I would also appreciate it if you could give me the contact particulars of other owners that you know of that have experienced thes problems. Thanks.
Email is [email protected] .

 

[DrTaz]

NitroTech is king of the world! Thanks for the ongoing tech support here. You dah man. Making call to dealership now ...

 

[Blue Skye]

to NitroTech..

NitroTech.....When I posted my message about the July 31.09 TSB 18-23-09 I had not seen on this forum that you had alerted us to it a few days ago. I didn't scroll up far enough to see your previous posts. My apology.....your input is extremely valuable to us all.

As I said above, my 3.7L trans problem seems to be fixed - for now. It's nice to drive it now with a sense of confidence and reliability rather than anticipating a fight with the dealership and ruminating that maybe I bought junk. Bryce

 

[Suzimac]

This is probably going to be a stupid question, so please forgive...If a tech bulletin is sent out its because Chrysler flubbed something up, is this correct? If so, then shouldn't Chrysler be responsible for correcting the problem regardless of warranty? I just bought my '07 Nitro used, this spring and evidently the warranty ended shortly after I purchased it.

 

[Scar0]

Check out this thread. Some 5 star service departments will perform a TSB after your warranty is expired (no charge), but not all. Call around and see what they say.
It might help to have it done with an oil change. Just an idea... maybe they will do it, to try to get you to continue coming back for your other oil changes?

 

[Bukal]

Hi everyone
Had this TBS flash done last night. Boy truck never ran this good. If not for NITRO TECH I would not have had this done. My service manager said if tech finds something wrong on test drive he would take care of it but otherwise no. But I could see him go on test drive and he really give her the gas. Came back and did the TBS. I have a new truck now.I am very happy. With times this bad I need to keep this one for a number of years.
Joe Bukal
Happy Dodge Owner :Racing:

 

[nitro charlie]

would this tsb apply to my 2011 3.7 automatic it shows date manufacture of 09/10

 

[Scar0]

Not necessarily. It is written for 07-08, but if your rig is showing the symptoms you can inquire about this with your local dealer.

 

[nitro charlie]

hello nitro friends I am driving a 2011 with the 3.7 automatic it has a shudder in it around 40-60 mph with the a/c on not near as noticeable with it off also when I go to back up a incline it has a shudder for a couple seconds til the rpms get up then it is fine my question is could this be a serpentine belt causing this shudder thanks for your input

 

[nitro charlie]

just a update I went to the dealer they did a test drive did notice the surge around 50 mph done another drive with their computer hooked up said it was showing misfire on cylinder 1 and 5 recommended tune up and for the reverse shudder they said this is common in the 42rle transmission and advised me that dodge had sent them a bulletin stating there is no fix for this problem and printed it out for me but they advised my tranny did need to be programmed with the new performance update they did the update and the tune up all of which made supposedly misfire worse just want to warn everyone about this problem