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I'm looking for any information on pulling my 3.7 and swapping it with a Hemi. I know there may be some people saying you can't do it. But anything can be done. I know LS swaps have been done but I cannot find anything for the Hemi. Planning to gut everything and starting from scratch. Not sure which Hemi would be best, looking for any ideas and info. The wackier the better!
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This is on my todo list far in the future--after my 3.7 gives out.

Dodge already did this for SEMA--they put a 5.7 in a Nitro, called it an SRT, but never released any specs or parts for it.

If you look at other models from Dodge/Jeep you'll notice several offered as options the 3.7, 4.7, and the 5.7 Hemi. Turns out the same ECU can run all of them--just needs a different tune and a full harness. (There was a thread where an FCA engineer said they used the same ECU to test the 3.7 and 4.7 between runs--they'd just change the tune and ignore the extra wires not used for the 3.7) Another thread elsewhere confirmed that on those models the ECU part numbers can be used between both the 4.7 and 5.7 engine options--just different tunes.

That said, I think it should be possible to grab a 5.7 and the ECU out one of those models, possibly also the TIPM, repin the harness as necessary to fit the Nitro cluster and it might "just work"... would still be a big project. Now if you want to be able to custom tune that hemi, that might change the available options. Checkout DIY HEMI site for more details about ECU, tuning, unlocking, and other issues. here they have a chart showing some notable differences in ECUs vs model years.

The 5.7 weighs more than the 4.7, but less than the CRD--so you'd probably want to use the CRD suspension (stronger springs). As far as other fitment I really couldn't say. Headers? Front crossmember? Which oil pan would fit? Radiator and reservoir relocation?
I'm pretty sure you can fit a 545RFE, but not sure if it's strong enough for the 5.7. Doubt the Dana 30 up front would last with the 5.7--so not sure what you could do about that. You might need custom drive shafts. The SEMA model used a 5-speed tremec manual--I couldn't find exact part numbers mentioned for it.

Here's all the articles and photos I could find about the 5.7 Nitro build for SEMA:

There have been a few threads over the years detailing V8 swaps into Nitros and JLs, but in every case the posters disappear w/o follow ups.

I've no doubt it can be done--just not sure at what cost or level of difficulty.
If you have to pass emissions... that might be a whole 'nother can of worms.
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nobody has actually pulled this off yet due to all the complications with the electronics,
if i remember correctly the SEMA Nitro had the Hemi installed which was driveable, but most of the electronic issues where never overcome and the vehicle could not be driven on the road legally, pretty much just made as a show car,
where is it now ?
nobody has actually pulled this off yet due to all the complications with the electronics,
if i remember correctly the SEMA Nitro had the Hemi installed which was driveable, but most of the electronic issues where never overcome and the vehicle could not be driven on the road legally, pretty much just made as a show car,
where is it now ?
I think Holley now makes standalone electronics to run Hemi engines. You would probably be better off getting that, than trying to make a Chrysler Hemi ECU play nice with the Nitro.
thats what i always thought, the standalone electronics is a must to run the Hemi, don't think you could ever run a Hemi with the Nitro PCM,
the Hemi would need it's ECU, the Nitro's would need to keep it's PCM for the TIPM and all the Nitro's electronic modules work, getting the Hemi electronics to play nice with the Hemi electronics, that is a big challenge,
on the SEMA Nitro they didn't even manage to get the windows working,
an Hemi Nitro would be fun, but these days an Electric Nitro 4x4 would be Awsome,
I'm looking for any information on pulling my 3.7 and swapping it with a Hemi. I know there may be some people saying you can't do it. But anything can be done. I know LS swaps have been done but I cannot find anything for the Hemi. Planning to gut everything and starting from scratch. Not sure which Hemi would be best, looking for any ideas and info. The wackier the better!
Yes it’s been done, go to YouTube look for HEMI swap Dodge Nitro me myself would rather swap with a LS2
i looked but can not find antything, have you got a link to the video please,
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There's a post in the one thread:
"I used to work at Chrysler - Jeep Truck Engineering in the Dyno Labs. We ran the same harnesses for both engines. We would swap out the ECU's and tie off the 1 and 2 injector and C-O-P connectors. Voila! Both engines, one harness. Use the 4.7L HO engine. 310hp out of the box.

K&J Auto Service in Hazel Park, MI used to be able to reprogram JTEC's. Today though, Arrington Performance in Brighton, MI has the capability. "
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still don't see a road legal Nitro with a Hemi,
still don't see a road legal Nitro with a Hemi,
What wasn't road legal about the Nitro with the LS V8? Or the Liberty with the 4.7 V8 ?
Oh, you said Hemi.
Well I'd imagine at worst it would be no different than the LS V8 swap--independent controller and cluster.
still there has never been a Nitro with any V8 conversion that has all the electronics working and is road legal,
apparently the Nitro runs a different CAN bus to most vehicles and a converter has never been made, thats what it says in one of the youtube videos,
its fairly easy to slide in a v8 with transmission and make it run its getting everything on the vehicle to work that nobody has managed to complete,
Well, just perusing with AlfaOBD you'll see there is an option to tell the BCM what model car it is. I was hoping that getting a 5.7 ECU out of a similar Dodge/Jeep (commander/dakota) would run the engine, and the BCM just wouldn't care--or tell the BCM it's in the model that matches the ECU and maybe that would be enough. Would have to try to find out. So long as the CAN busses run at the same speed of course. Nitro CAN bus is at 500kbps I think. It's considered "hi speed" vs the slower in the 2007 and older JL that had a hybrid CAN/PCI bus setup. But I think there's an even faster 1Mbps CAN bus also.
Nice, it's good to hear something a little more positive! Appreciate it!
Dodge already did this for SEMA--they put a 5.7 in a Nitro, called it an SRT, but never released any specs or parts for it.
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