[BearlyNitro]

Okay all you R/T owners out there, after suffering from some recent disrespect from our brethren with lesser Nitros, and seeing all the performance parts coming out for that lesser 3.7L V-6, it is time for us to all band together and request that the manufacturers provide us with the aftermarket performance parts that we demand.

If we don't do something soon those 3.7L guys and gals will be knocking at our 260HP door before you know it. After all, we only have a small 0.3L edge on them in the displacement department and need to keep our performance edge to deserve our R/T badges (I know...I know.... you 3.7L Nitros don't need no stinkin' badges)


So come on R/T owners, let's get on the band wagon and tell all the performance manufacturers out there that we want our fair share of the good stuff.

Are you with me?!?

The Bear

 

[JustinC]

I am with you Brother....EAstway has the deal on Headers for the 3.7.

I want a Cherry Bomb for my R/T, my guess is that they are coming this vehicle has customization written all ove rit.

 

[David Louis Harter]

Performance Parts for Nitro R/T

So come on R/T owners, let's get on the band wagon and tell all the performance manufacturers out there that we want our fair share of the good stuff.

Are you with me?!?

The Bear

I agree! I shall voice this to some performance manufacturers through my local auto parts dealer, who is a good friend and business neighbor. He builds racing engines and has some good contacts.

I believe performance parts for the 4.0L engine are slower to appear, because the 4.0L engine is a very good performer in stock trim.

- David
NITRORT - http://www.catechnologies.com/blog/mrnitroplate.jpg

 

[KenCary]

Lest you RT guys not forget some of us with the 3.7 also have the option of a 6speed stick. With the cheaper block we can take the risk of a good shot of Nitrous. If we blow it up, we can get a new block from the Junkyard, bore it, stroke it and have more then 4.0L.

 

[lilsalmon]

I AM WITH YOU!!!!! I want body kits and performance mods to take our 4.0L over the top!!!!!!!

Hey Manufacturers - GOT MONEY... WILL SPEND! BUILD IT AND THEY WILL BUY!


-Lil'

 

[HighVoltageNITRO]

I'm on board

I am with all you guys. If JBA or Doug Thorley will produce a set of headers for for the 4.0L we all will be sitting pretty. I have experience with Doug Thorley on a '95 Dak with a 318. In those days MOPAR performance produced in house hi-performance OEM electronic control modules and that combined with Doug Thorley headers and dual exhaust gave the Dak the ability to run 0-60 in 6 seconds. I would take the headers over the ECM because that required premium fuel and dropped the city mileage from 17 to 14.5. I still have some high flow CATs from that setup that I wouldn't mind reusing also.

 

[BearlyNitro]

Okay, my first R/T recruit!

I am with you Brother....EAstway has the deal on Headers for the 3.7.

I want a Cherry Bomb for my R/T, my guess is that they are coming this vehicle has customization written all ove rit.

Good to see you are with me JustinC. You might want to modify your user profile to show that your Nitro is the R/T model, as I am not seeing it in your personal info at the side of all your posts.

You are right, our R/T's are just begging to be modified to the max! epper:

The Bear

 

[BearlyNitro]

The first challenger shows his colors

Lest you RT guys not forget some of us with the 3.7 also have the option of a 6speed stick. With the cheaper block we can take the risk of a good shot of Nitrous. If we blow it up, we can get a new block from the Junkyard, bore it, stroke it and have more then 4.0L.

Stand together R/T owners, there are bound to be many more like this KenCary out there that will be challenging our R/T superiority. :Na_Na_Na_Na:

Keep a sharp eye out for parts and mods for our 4.0L motors, these SLT and SXT brethren of ours will be doing there best to over take us as quickly as possible (and with the way performance parts are starting to show up, they will be threatening very soon).

I am afraid we need a 5.7L Hemi in our R/T's if we are to fend off this assault permanently!

The Bear

 

[BearlyNitro]

Another couple of recruits, welcome aboard R/T troopers

I am with all you guys. If JBA or Doug Thorley will produce a set of headers for for the 4.0L we all will be sitting pretty. I have experience with Doug Thorley on a '95 Dak with a 318. In those days MOPAR performance produced in house hi-performance OEM electronic control modules and that combined with Doug Thorley headers and dual exhaust gave the Dak the ability to run 0-60 in 6 seconds. I would take the headers over the ECM because that required premium fuel and dropped the city mileage from 17 to 14.5. I still have some high flow CATs from that setup that I wouldn't mind reusing also.

Glad to have you with us, but we need readily available performance parts for our R/T's, not one of a kind racing parts that the troops don't have access to.

Get the word out to any and all that we want performance parts first, not last. After all we are the Nitro owners with performance in our minds aren't we!

I am researching the possibility and costs that would be involved in installing the 6 speed manual transmission in an R/T and will report back to all the R/T troops with my findings. That is one key part that the SXT owners have and we don't.

The Bear

 

[Pshrynk]

By lesser.......

do you mean less expensive to buy and better mileage in the PROVEN and RELIABLE 3.7?? :Banana01:


:Na_Na_Na_Na:

 

[niftie]

You know it!
The Magnum RT is getting all the attention and I think the Nitro is getting jealous . . .

Okay all you R/T owners out there, after suffering from some recent disrespect from our brethren with lesser Nitros, and seeing all the performance parts coming out for that lesser 3.7L V-6, it is time for us to all band together and request that the manufacturers provide us with the aftermarket performance parts that we demand.

If we don't do something soon those 3.7L guys and gals will be knocking at our 260HP door before you know it. After all, we only have a small 0.3L edge on them in the displacement department and need to keep our performance edge to deserve our R/T badges (I know...I know.... you 3.7L Nitros don't need no stinkin' badges)


So come on R/T owners, let's get on the band wagon and tell all the performance manufacturers out there that we want our fair share of the good stuff.

Are you with me?!?

The Bear

 

[BearlyNitro]

You bet! Lesser as in less power, less handling, less FUN!

By lesser.......

do you mean less expensive to buy and better mileage in the PROVEN and RELIABLE 3.7?? :Banana01:


:Na_Na_Na_Na:

I haven't heard from any of you 3.7L Nitros that are getting better mileage than my 4.0L R/T. I will challenge any of you to a test run against me to prove me wrong. My 5 speed automatic will prevail against your 4 speed automatic for both performance and gas mileage.

So, lesser means that a few of you might have saved a couple of hundred dollars at the dealer, but have to put up with less performance now!

(I hope all of you realize this is all in good fun. I don't want this to get out of hand)

The Bear

 

[gaprice17]

R/t Gets Great Gas Mileage

HELLO ALL JUST THOUGHT ID CHIME IN OUR R/T HAS BEEN AVG. 18.5 IN THE CITY AND 22.3 ON THE HIGHWAY AT 65mph OVER 65mph AND IT DROPS TO ABOUT 20-21 IM VERY HAPPY WITH THE GAS MILEAGE.
AND WOW THE MOTOR IN THIS THING ROCKS CANT WAIT FOR PERFORMANCE UPGRADES TO THR R/T

 

[BearlyNitro]

Right!

HELLO ALL JUST THOUGHT ID CHIME IN OUR R/T HAS BEEN AVG. 18.5 IN THE CITY AND 22.3 ON THE HIGHWAY AT 65mph OVER 65mph AND IT DROPS TO ABOUT 20-21 IM VERY HAPPY WITH THE GAS MILEAGE.
AND WOW THE MOTOR IN THIS THING ROCKS CANT WAIT FOR PERFORMANCE UPGRADES TO THR R/T

Well said fellow R/T owner. I am also getting excellent gas mileage and enjoying the performance of my Nitro.

Those 3.7L owners are just jealous and in denial regarding the R/T's superiority, so they are looking for excuses.

They have two things going for them right now;

1. More after market performance parts have come available for the 3.7L so far and;

2. The SXT model has the option of the 3.7L V-6 with a 6 speed manual transmission, where the R/T cannot currently be equipped with any manual transmission.

We can't do much about number 2 at the moment, but we had all better make a lot of noise to get number 1 turned around right now!

The Bear

 

[David Louis Harter]

R/T Mileage and Performance

HELLO ALL JUST THOUGHT ID CHIME IN OUR R/T HAS BEEN AVG. 18.5 IN THE CITY AND 22.3 ON THE HIGHWAY AT 65mph

That is nearly exactly what I am getting with my Nitro R/T. The larger engine apparently gets superior mileage. As you said, the performance of the 4.0L engine is excellent.

____________________________
- David
NITRORT - http://www.catechnologies.com/blog/mrnitroplate.jpg

 

[Pshrynk]

That is nearly exactly what I am getting with my Nitro R/T. The larger engine apparently gets superior mileage. As you said, the performance of the 4.0L engine is excellent.

____________________________
- David
NITRORT - http://www.catechnologies.com/blog/mrnitroplate.jpg

Umm yeah...... sure it does... the larger displacment higher compression engine gets better mileage...... um huh

Dodge musta figured out a way around basic physics :i_rolleyes:



:Na_Na_Na_Na:

 

[David Louis Harter]

Efficiency

Dodge musta figured out a way around basic physics

This has absolutely nothing to do with "basic physics" and everything to do with efficiency. The 4.0L engine and 5-speed automatic transmission provide a more efficient powertrain. The concept is not particular to the Nitro. Many vehicles operate similarly. Apparently, the 3.7L engine is simply not as efficient as the 4.0L engine--particularly if mated with the 4-speed automatic.

- David

 

[Pshrynk]

Efficiency IS basic physics .

^Power = ^Consumption

Yes the drivetrain is a factor but the 3.7 drivetrain would have to be a HUGE power robber to get worse mileage.

Besides the EPA and the Natural Resources Canada/Office of Energy Efficiency see the 3.7 getting better mileage.

 

[DrTaz]

Looks like quite the pissing match you're having here. I'm the first to admit that I'm not a carwhiz, but ultimately doesn't it come down to having a good match between horsepower and vehicle weight, as well as efficiency of transmissions, resistance at the wheels, and so on? Having owned some 'heavy' vehicles in the past, some with V6 and some with V8, I know that MPG and horsepower seem to be inter-related depending on the weight vs. horsepower thing. Also, I know that my Silverado's RPM with a V8 ran lower than my Envoy's V6, and got better mileage on the Silverado . . .
Gauntlet and all, R/T aftermarket will come one day ...

 

[David Louis Harter]

Powertrain Efficiency

ultimately doesn't it come down to having a good match between horsepower and vehicle weight, as well as efficiency of transmissions, resistance at the wheels, and so on?

Yes, it does.

Having owned some 'heavy' vehicles in the past, some with V6 and some with V8, I know that MPG and horsepower seem to be inter-related depending on the weight vs. horsepower thing. Also, I know that my Silverado's RPM with a V8 ran lower than my Envoy's V6, and got better mileage on the Silverado . . .

My previous Dodge SUV was a Ramcharger with 360cid V8 and 4bbl. It consistently got better gas mileage than my friend's Ramcharger with a 318cid V8 and 2bbl--especially when we went off-road.

Gauntlet and all, R/T aftermarket will come one day ...

I am certain it will.

_____________________________
- David
NITRORT - http://www.catechnologies.com/blog/mrnitroplate.jpg