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I just had the reprogram done yesterday, but now it clunks between 1st and 2nd and it didn't do that before.
TSB Number: 18-037-06 Subject: Vehicle Surge, Grumble/Drone During Torque Convertor L
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I got the same result that Packerbacker got. It only does it with little throttle. If you are on the gas somewhat it shifts ok. The wife was at the dealer 1 1/2 hrs for the reprogram.
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The TSB is kind of a 2 part repair. There's the flash reprogram and then the trans quicklearn. The whole repair takes about 15 minutes, if the tech is on the ball. Appointment scheduling may be the reason she was there for an hour and a half.
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Called the dealer and spoke to the service manager. They said that the trans quicklearn was done. Guess I will drive it a little more and see if it smooths out with some use.
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I asked the dealer if they did the trans quicklearn, with the flash and they said yes. It still does it and today i noticed while backing up a little hill it felt like the tranny was slipping. I will have to see if I can get it in and looked at again. If anyone has any idea what could be causing the prob please post. Thanks
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Just to update...the 1st to 2nd has now stopped the clunk. Maybe the vehicle has to get used to us. They have a soul you know. Remember the movie "Christine" ?
nitrowill thanks for all the information on the surging, my nitro was built in Sept will take this bullentin to dealer next week, i have an appointment to get chrome step rails put on. i will be putting a picture in the form in about a week, how do you put the picture into these forms
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To find the date of manufacture of your Nitro look at the label on the drivers-door shut face. Here's a link with information regarding the label.
http://www.nitroforumz.com/showthread.php?t=785
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wierd service today
had my nitro to the shop today, told them i hear a rearend noise. so they take the truck and drive it and write down the tsb for the trans reflash, saying there is a clunk when going from 1-2 shift. i go to pick it up and they tell me the clunk is better but not gone so they order a drive shaft for it.... my original complaint was the rearend making a whining noise, now they made the truck shift worse , and it is also surging really bad around 40 -45 mph, and also the auto up button for the driver window dont work now.
had my nitro to the shop today, told them i hear a rearend noise. so they take the truck and drive it and write down the tsb for the trans reflash, saying there is a clunk when going from 1-2 shift. i go to pick it up and they tell me the clunk is better but not gone so they order a drive shaft for it.... my original complaint was the rearend making a whining noise, now they made the truck shift worse , and it is also surging really bad around 40 -45 mph, and also the auto up button for the driver window dont work now.
had my nitro in today for chrome tublar steps and also for the surging problems, the steps look great the surging is still there, will call the dealer again tomorrow, i took the TSB bullentin with me and showed it to them. Don't know whether they went by igt
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Thanks for heads up on tsb. I had my nitro into dealer yesterday to replace the electric door locks on the drivers side. I told them of the problem with shifting and surges, and also with vehicle stalling while being driven. They said the only tsb that applies to my vin number had already been performed prior to my purchase. They said there was nothing further they could do because they can't perform repairs that aren't authorized. What a load of crap. Thanks anyway.
Thanks for heads up on tsb. I had my nitro into dealer yesterday to replace the electric door locks on the drivers side. I told them of the problem with shifting and surges, and also with vehicle stalling while being driven. They said the only tsb that applies to my vin number had already been performed prior to my purchase. They said there was nothing further they could do because they can't perform repairs that aren't authorized. What a load of crap. Thanks anyway.
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TSB's are very build specific. For the TSB that applies to the transmission shifting the vehicle has to be built before Nov. 17. In your case I'm have no idea of your vehicles build date. Also if the technician who is performing the reprogram isn't aware of proper procedures to verify the most current software using the Starscan (Chrysler computer scanner) its possible to miss updates and report none are available.
If a TSB is available that states symptoms that are similar to what an owner is experiencing (transmission shifting in your case) but the VIN of the vehicle does not fall within the affected VIN range the dealer can't perform that reprogram or repair. For 2 reasons, first the computer will not accept the reprogram because the files do not match, and second the dealer will not get paid from Chrysler for a repair to that vehicle because to them (Chrysler) it doesn't fall within the affected VIN range.
If a vehicle has similar symptoms to those stated in a TSB, the technician may perform the exact repair as outlined in a TSB but it will be claimed through normal warranty and not a TSB Labor Operation. Unfortunetely this can't happen with computer reprogramming.
If this truly is the case with your vehicle your dealer was truthful. If the PCM and TCM software are running at the latest software then its possible there are other concerns regarding your problems you stated. Hope this clears thing up a little.
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i also forgot to mention that while they did the tsb on my nitro, the clunk was still there so they ordered a drive shaft for it thinking that is the problem.
Thanks again for more info. Sounds like I'll just have to live with the problems until dodge figures out people are having problems with tranny and stalling. Hopefully the stalling won't kill someone before they figure it out. I knew people in the past who had bought caravans and had tranny problems requiring several replacements. Hope this isn't the case with nitros.
Well...here we go again....the Nitro got a new torque converter last week...picked it up on Friday and by Monday the hard shift between 1st and 2nd was back...not shuddering yet but I did go back to the dealer yesterday...they say the Pacifica is having this issue...the ordered a new torque converter for a Pacifica they are fixing that has a new part number and the say it is coming from Chrysler Engineering....if it works on the Pacifica they want to try it on mine but that will be at least another 2 weeks of this crap.....just how long can you drive on a bad torque converter if thats the problem before it starts to tear up hard parts in your tranny??
Hi, I've had my torque converter replaced and had the TSB's done last week on the transmission and the speakers. Shifting is much better and speakers will be fixed this week and now the door locks are also broken, being fixed also. But it shifts better!! Still love the Nitro even with all that has happened.
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I have thought about this topic lately and today when mine made a little growl I remembered the problem that GM had with the trailblazers. At 58mph (on ours anyway) there would be a sort of roar comming from the rearend area. As it turned out when the torque converter locked up 1 to 1 it sent sort of a distorted sound up thur the rear springs and sounded off in the cabin area. They replaced the rear springs (slightly different strenght) and the noise went away. Something to ponder.
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