What's under that panel?

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bch

Discussion Starter · Jan 4, 2007

I had a few minutes today, so I thought I would pull off the right rear interior quarter panel to see if they happened to prewire for the Uconnect option that I don't have. Nope, no spare connectors, but I guess that means I can put that telematics module anywhere and not have to run any wires the length of the vehicle. My gallery contains a few more pics, but here is what's under that panel if you've got the factory sub:

When I get some time, I'll do a write up on how to remove that panel. It's somewhat of a pain because of the size of it.

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NitroOne1

· #2 · Jan 4, 2007

Out of curiosity; is the telematics module in a Uconnect equipt model located in the back. I know that in other Chrysler vehicles it's located behind the glove box.

It seems silly to me to put that module in the far back when all it needs to connect to is the radio and the mirror.

bch

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 4, 2007

NitroOne1 said:
Out of curiosity; is the telematics module in a Uconnect equipt model located in the back. I know that in other Chrysler vehicles it's located behind the glove box.

It seems silly to me to put that module in the far back when all it needs to connect to is the radio and the mirror.

According to the service manual it is. Hard to tell from their drawings, but it looks like it would sit under the amp. You're right, it doesn't make much sense that it's back there.

bambamdip

· #4 · Jan 4, 2007

Does anyone have the schematic of that amp?
Is it just an amp for the sub, or for the rest of the system as well?
Does it have pre-amp inputs or line level inputs?

Anybody see where I'm going with this?

NitroTech

· #5 · Jan 5, 2007

The amp runs the entire audio system (Infinity w/subwoofer). It appears to me that the input to the amp is line-level. Also note the amplifier is on the CAN Interior Bus. Here's the diagram:

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bambamdip

· #6 · Jan 5, 2007

Thanks a million NitroLarry. You da man!! We can always count on you for for posting up schematics. Bump for you!
As for the line level-or-preamp question. I guess a fella with a multimeter could figure that one out fairly easily with a bit of patience.
BTW.......nice pics bch. Very informative.

rayado8689

· #7 · Jan 22, 2012

how can i find the factory amp bacause my 2011 doesnt have the sub or how can i connect a aftermarker amp

dhh3

· #8 · Jan 23, 2012

The amp is only with the Infinity system - 8 speakers + sub.

The standard systems - 6 speakers, no sub - Media Center 130, 230 utilize a built in amp, no RCA outputs.

If you want to keep your factory head unit, call Crutchfield. Tell them what you have, and what you want to do. They have never failed me yet.

rayado8689

· #9 · Jan 23, 2012

thanks for the help and how can i find crutchfield

dhh3

· #10 · Jan 24, 2012 (Edited)

crutchfield.com Their 800 number is on their web site, and you can do an online chat with one of the techs. Good luck.

Now that I have seen this, I will begin my search for the sub enclosure and the corresponding interior panel. I can pick my own speaker to fit, with an amplifier, and then try to figure out how to split the signal so no bass goes to the 6 speakers, just the sub.

dhh3

· #11 · Aug 7, 2012

The first post on this thread shows a picture of the panel removed. However, he neglected to post how to remove the panel. Anyone done this? I need to remove mine, and do not want to run into any surprises as I did when I tried to remove my door panels!

Scar0

· #12 · Aug 7, 2012

http://www.nitroforumz.com/showthread.php?p=127743&#post127743

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dhh3

· #13 · Aug 7, 2012

Perfect. ScarO to the rescue again. :rep: I searched all over the forum for something like this - adding a back-up camera never came to mind.

:smileup: :smileup:

dhh3

· #14 · Aug 7, 2012

Ok, it took all of 5 minutes to remove the panel! Thank you again, Scaro. Now, I need a favor from one of you that has the factory sub, and is willing to remove their panel to get a measurement for me. The mounting holes for the sub enclosure are NOT pre-drilled. Go figure. If you look at the first picture in this post, there is a slotted hole below the "D" pillar, just above the top mounting bolt for the enclosure. I need the distance between the bottom of the slot and the mounting hole so that I can approximate the correct position of the enclosure.
Now, I'll have to go to the dealer and locate the mounting studs, bolts, screws, or whatever!

I have located an amp and a sub speaker - I'm sticking with Kicker because I have swapped all of my stock speakers with the Mopar Kicker replacements.

1. Amp: Kicker DX2501 - mono amp - 250w @ 2 ohm. With the use of an adaptor, can accept speaker input. I plan to draw off of the right rear door - closest to the sub. I'll mount the amp under my flippable floor, in the front cubby.
2. Sub: Kicker CVR82 - 8", 2 ohm, dual voice coil. 4.25" depth - the stock enclosure should accept this speaker.

I am in no rush to do this, so, as always, opinions and suggestions welcomed. I may be missing something here!

Thanks for reading.

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Scar0

· #15 · Aug 8, 2012

Glad to help out. Being an old timer here I have read most of the threads.
Did you get the Kicker sub from Sapper that he was selling with the enclosure?

dhh3

· #16 · Aug 8, 2012 (Edited)

Scar0 said:
Glad to help out. Being an old timer here I have read most of the threads.
Did you get the Kicker sub from Sapper that he was selling with the enclosure?

The enclosure came with the original Infinity sub. I do not intend to use it - now I need to find it a home! I can understand him not wanting to sell the enclosure without the speaker.

BTW, I called my dealer and the sub enclosure mounts on welded studs! No wonder there are no holes. I can order them, mark them where they go, and have someone weld them on, but I think that this would be overkill. So, I will be looking for some large, S/S self tapping screws and lock washers!

Ordered the new interior panel from Mopar Online Parts. They appear to be in CT, so hopefully it will be here by Friday. I like to keep the beast in order!

Grocerygettaslt07

· #17 · Sep 7, 2012

Say I wanted to unplug my sub from the amp and run power to a bigger amp for two aftermarket 12s would it work or no

dhh3

· #18 · Sep 8, 2012

Grocerygettaslt07 said:
Say I wanted to unplug my sub from the amp and run power to a bigger amp for two aftermarket 12s would it work or no

I am not sure how the Infinity amp works. When I finally go to hook up my Kicker sub in the factory enclosure I purchased, I was told to take power from the right rear door speaker.
You could do it this way also, but you would probably want to unplug the existing sub. There are members on here that have filled their whole cargo bay with subs - maybe one will chime in. I need the room in the cargo bay; that is why I am going with the factory enclosure. Good luck.

ModernBlueNitro

· #19 · Sep 10, 2012

dhh3, Did you by any chance have some information step by step on how you wired the factory sub and amp? I've sourced a sub and amp but have no idea or clue on how to wire it! I've remove the panel (and have to purchase the sub enclosure panel) all I'm stuck with is wiring it to the stock REQ deck as I like the bass it pumps out.

dhh3

· #20 · Sep 10, 2012

ModernBlueNitro said:
dhh3, Did you by any chance have some information step by step on how you wired the factory sub and amp? I've sourced a sub and amp but have no idea or clue on how to wire it! I've remove the panel (and have to purchase the sub enclosure panel) all I'm stuck with is wiring it to the stock REQ deck as I like the bass it pumps out.

I am not going to use the factory sub and amp. I am only going to use the factory sub enclosure, and I need to purchase the right rear interior panel that has the sub speaker grill. In the end, I did not purchase this panel from moparonlineparts.com, because the shipping was too expensive. They alerted me to this fact (thank you!), so I will order it from my dealer. The panel is presently on back order. Meanwhile, I keep searching salvage yards! I am not starting this project until I have all of the parts in hand.

On Page 1 of this thread, look at Post #5. There is a diagram of the Infinity Sound System.

On Page 2, Post #14, I posted what I intended to purchase. I am not starting this until I have all of the parts. Once I have the panel, and the measurement of where the enclosure mounts, I will take HU (my Nitro) to BestBuy and let them do the installation. Their price for the amp and sub is exactly the same as Crutchfield.

On Page 2, re-read my Post #18. There are numerous threads on the forum where members adding after maket subs draw the power from the right, rear door speaker - speaker level input. I have to guess that they also ran a positive and negative cable up to the battery to power the amp.

Can you describe your REQ deck to me - features, etc? I will google it.

I do know that all of the Mopar radios, including the mygigs, do not have any RCA jacks for installation of aftermarket amps, and I thus have no clue how to add one! Basically, I know nothing about the Infinity System, other than it uses cheap paper speakers, has a low powered amp, and adds a separate tweeter to the rear doors. But, the people that have them say that sound is amazing, for a factory system.

Mine originally came with a single disc w/Sirius - Media Center 130. The sound was good, with good base for a factory unit. I then replaced all of my speakers with the Kickers by Mopar, and the sound improved 100%. Wow. When I wear loose pants, I can actually feel the air from the front door speakers! I then decided to upgrade to the 6 disc w/Sirius, Media Center 230. This unit has a 66w internal amp, and the sound improved another 50%. I finally upgraded to a mygig, RBZ, Media Center 430. I haven't found the specs yet, but, again, there is an improvement in the sound quality. So, I am going to stick with Kicker for my sub. The techs at BestBuy may recommend something else for my situation. The only restriction is that the sub must be 8" in diameter, in order to fit the factory enclosure. They may also suggest a different amp, other than the one that I picked out. The factory system is 2 ohm, so I want my sub to also be 2 ohm - maybe this being too anal, but this is the way that I am.

I am basically on hold until I get the interior panel - then off to BestBuy it is. I hope all of this helps you in some way. Good luck with your project.

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