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I just posted pics of the "2 inch" lift from daystar.

I put pics in the member gallery under Lifted Safari Nitro. As you will see, the lift is 2' in the back and 2.5" - 3" in the front (for leveling). To me, this is a pretty good lift for the price. I'd say it could take 31s... It's gotten alot of looks since the lift. The Nitro is a keeper...
 

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Nitro329....that look SWEET!!!!! Did you have to go with a custom made lift? Looks like a set of 31x10.5's would fit just fine under there. Now THATS what a 4x4 Nitro should look like.:D
None of this lowered, big wheels, little tires, 'wish it was a car' crap.

Nice roof rack too.
 

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Yep, looks cool Nitro329! Can't wait to see it with some rims & tires under it!
I like the rack too. I saw that rack in the brochure last year but haven't seen one since. Made me wonder about integrating some sort of ski rack into the basket for the ultimate ski rig.
 

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Lift & Rack

Nothing custom. You can find the lift at Daystarweb.com. It happens to be the same lift used on a liberty but this one is for the Nitro. It's kind of hard to find on the website but if you look under New Products you should find it.

The rack is by Rola. I got that from etrailer.com for $150. I'll get 31s on it down the road. The fun funds are a little low for a little while...

Here's what I've done so far:

Rack: Mopar Utilitly Bars and Rola RacK
Driving lights: Hella
Exhaust: Flowmaster 40 with a 3 inch pipe and deisel tip.
Lift: Daystar

Next up...
Air intake by AEM
BFG 31s
Bull Bar or Winch Brace with winch (undecided)
 

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Yep, looks cool Nitro329! Can't wait to see it with some rims & tires under it!
I like the rack too. I saw that rack in the brochure last year but haven't seen one since. Made me wonder about integrating some sort of ski rack into the basket for the ultimate ski rig.

Airjunky, I had the EXACT same question about the rack. I threw ski's into the back of mine this winter because I have ALL the Yakima Rack components from my last car, yet no way to interface them with this car. I did inquire about the stock rack yesterday as the brochure says it will work with your other components, although the parts man couldn't give me an answer. I still search Yakima's site to see if they've got something up yet.

Oh yeah and Nitro329....Nice lookin ride!
 

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Yep, looks cool Nitro329! Can't wait to see it with some rims & tires under it!
I like the rack too. I saw that rack in the brochure last year but haven't seen one since. Made me wonder about integrating some sort of ski rack into the basket for the ultimate ski rig.

Airjunky, I had the EXACT same question about the rack. I threw ski's into the back of mine this winter because I have ALL the Yakima Rack components from my last car, yet no way to interface them with this car. I did inquire about the stock rack yesterday as the brochure says it will work with your other components, although the parts man couldn't give me an answer. I still search Yakima's site to see if they've got something up yet.

Oh yeah and Nitro329....Nice lookin ride!
 

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Nothing custom. You can find the lift at Daystarweb.com. It happens to be the same lift used on a liberty but this one is for the Nitro. It's kind of hard to find on the website but if you look under New Products you should find it.

The rack is by Rola. I got that from etrailer.com for $150. I'll get 31s on it down the road. The fun funds are a little low for a little while...

Here's what I've done so far:

Rack: Mopar Utilitly Bars and Rola RacK
Driving lights: Hella
Exhaust: Flowmaster 40 with a 3 inch pipe and deisel tip.
Lift: Daystar

Next up...
Air intake by AEM
BFG 31s
Bull Bar or Winch Brace with winch (undecided)
nitro329, did you ever get 31" tires on your Nitro? If so, could you post a pic in your gallery?
 

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Well, I had to go up before going down.... In fact, this portion of the trail was very easy. Unfortunately, I was having too much fun to remember to pull out the camera earlier. By the time we were here (in the pic) we were headed out of the humbug area (AZ). This was my last chance to get a good pic but it doesn’t really do the Nitro any justice. The fact is, the Nitro handled very well climbing, going through holes and over rocks and I was VERY satisfied with the off-road performance.

With that said, I had a dodge 2500 4x4 before getting the Nitro and I'm sure that the Nitro would NOT do as well as the truck in SOME 4LO situations. That's ONLY because it doesn't have 4LO. Make no mistake, however, mechanically and suspension wise, Its ALL JEEP. If it did have 4LO, IMHO, it would rival the jeeps in its class (which is why DC didn't put a 4LO in the Nitro).

Even without 4LO it handles some situations better than my truck because of the size, approach angle (with lift) and Maneuverability. These qualities eliminate the need (in some cases) for 4LO. Big trucks sometimes have to go though an entire obstacles where the Nitro is simply agile enough to skirt them and make it’s own way or is small enough to lessen the severity of the obstacle. For example, my brother’s F150 couldn’t make some obstacles, that the Nitro could, because it was too long and scraped the bumper and undercarriage (even at an angle).

Is it a Jeep Rubicon with a lift and lockers…of course not. If I were into off-roading just for off-roading sake, I’d have that Jeep. However, the Nitro gets me to my fishing hole or camp site and back and that’s what I really care about.
 

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Trail ready or not?

If it did have 4LO, IMHO, it would rival the jeeps in its class (which is why DC didn't put a 4LO in the Nitro).
Maybe if c
ompared to the Patriot (another vehicle intended for limited off road use). More likely, the Nitro has a single speed case because it was designed for street cruising rather than off-roading.

Even without 4LO it handles some situations better than my truck because of the size, approach angle (with lift) and Maneuverability).
Don’t know how your truck was set up, but you could put a 6”+ lift on the Nitro, cut off the front air dam and still not get approach angles as good as the stock 2500 4x4 suspension.



I agree that Nitro is capable enough for limited back-country rides, but since it isn’t purposely built for the trail, it probably won’t be long before those staircases take a toll on the drivetrain.

Mark
 

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The only difference between the Nitro and the Liberty is 4LO. Same suspension, engines, drive gears, etc.

My '03 Liberty went anywhere I pointed it. I never needed 4LO in it either. Light weight and wide tires got me anywhere I was willing to go. I was not willing to go anywhere that I would have damaged the paint or body.

Put a bumper similar to this on a Nitro and you would have similar ground clearance and approach angles. This Liberty had a 2" lift similar to the one available for the Nitro, ARB front bumper, 8000# Warn winch.





Someday, I expect one of our members to do something like this with their Nitro. At present, no one has built a front bumper for them. That will change after the new Liberty is released.
 

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To your first point, how it's built and how it's marketed are two completely different things. If you actually do a side by side comparison with a Cherokee and/or Liberty (which I did both), you will find that many of the same methods and components are barrowed from both. The only thing not taken from either is the transfer case.

To your second point, my 2500 was stock 4x4. According to Dodge, the approach angle is 24.7 and the departure is 27.8. My Nitro as it is set up with lift/level kit and slightly larger tires has an approach of 33.7 and departure of 27.8 (without the hitch because that's how dodge calculates it). That's slightly less than the liberty and cherokee 4x4.

lastly, I also said; "Is it a Jeep Rubicon with a lift and lockers…of course not. If I were into off-roading just for off-roading sake, I’d have that Jeep."
 

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Hey HighVoltageNITRO, Cool pics. That's exactly what I want to do! I can't wait for that Bumper to get on the market. I also intend to take the Nitro everywhere I can (with the same paint body limitations).

Your also right about the Nitro's capabilities...When the 08 trail rated Liberty comes out, it will be the exact same suspension, body and drive train. The only reason Dodge won't point that out is MARKETING and to avoid canibalizing the Jeep market.
 
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